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0001082 [1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2] Shell and Utilities Editorial Error 2016-10-12 08:08 2018-04-12 15:36
Reporter Mark_Galeck View Status public  
Assigned To
Priority normal Resolution Rejected  
Status Closed  
Name Mark Galeck
Organization
User Reference
Section 2.3 Token Recognition
Page Number 2347-2348
Line Number 74751-74792
Interp Status ---
Final Accepted Text
Summary 0001082: "delimited" is incorrect
Description To "delimit" means, in English, to find both start and end. In Section 2.3 (and perhaps in the rest of the standard, but I am too lazy to check), it is used incorrectly to mean "find end" only. The meaning is clear from context, but it is misleading to an engineer who reads the standard for the first time trying to understand it.

Moreover, while the "start" of a token is precisely defined, precisely which character the "end" is, is not.
Desired Action Change:

in line 74753, "is delimited" to "ends"
in line 74754, "is delimited" to "ends"
in line 74755, "be delimited" to "end"
in line 74761, "be delimited" to "end with the previous character"
in line 74768, "be delimited by" to "end with"
in line 74779, "be delimited by" to "end with"
in line 74782, "be delimited" to "end with the previous character"
in line 74785, "is delimited" to "shall end with it"

I am not listing line 74751, because that whole sentence fragment should begone and I will address that in another report.




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- Relationships
related to 0001100Closed Rewrite of Section 2.10 Shell Grammar, of the Shell Standard, to fix previous reports, fix new issues, and improve presentation. 

-  Notes
(0003406)
kre (reporter)
2016-10-12 11:58

 Re:
    To "delimit" means, in English, to find both start and end.

Then if something "is delimited" it means we have found both the start
and the end, right? The start has been found earlier, so when the end
is found, we have found both, and the token "is delimited". I don't think
that wording is ether unclear or incorrect, and while I might not write it
that way myself, I don't think it's a good idea to go making wording changes
that aren't essential for clarity.

kre
(0003407)
Mark_Galeck (reporter)
2016-10-12 13:52

 OK, I see your point for those changes that would replace "is/be delimited" with "end(s)" . However, in some cases it is not clear where the token ends - see the 3 changes on lines 74761, 74782, 74785. (Also, in some other cases it is not clear where the token starts, but that is the subject of another report I made)
(0003951)
nick (manager)
2018-04-12 15:36

 As stated in Note: 0003406 we believe that the current wording is sufficiently clear and the use of the term is clearly stated in the previous paragraph.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2016-10-12 08:08 Mark_Galeck New Issue
2016-10-12 08:08 Mark_Galeck Name => Mark Galeck
2016-10-12 08:08 Mark_Galeck Section => 2.3 Token Recognition
2016-10-12 08:08 Mark_Galeck Page Number => 2347-2348
2016-10-12 08:08 Mark_Galeck Line Number => 74751-74792
2016-10-12 11:58 kre Note Added: 0003406
2016-10-12 13:52 Mark_Galeck Note Added: 0003407
2016-10-28 08:19 geoffclare Relationship added related to 0001100
2018-04-12 15:36 nick Interp Status => ---
2018-04-12 15:36 nick Note Added: 0003951
2018-04-12 15:36 nick Status New => Closed
2018-04-12 15:36 nick Resolution Open => Rejected

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