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|0001172||[1003.1(2016)/Issue7+TC2] Shell and Utilities||Objection||Enhancement Request||2017-11-24 17:32||2019-02-15 17:50|
|Priority||normal||Resolution||Accepted As Marked|
|Final Accepted Text||Note: 0004250|
|Summary||0001172: shell tilde expansion. Clarify ~"user" ~user@domain ~$user ~$(logname) ~-1...|
The spec currently says:
> If none of the characters in the tilde-prefix are quoted, the
> characters in the tilde-prefix following the <tilde> are
> treated as a possible login name from the user database.
However, it's not clear what happens if any of those characters
Also, a portable username is defined as [a-zA-Z._][a-zA-Z._-]*
(in both the $LOGNAME description and the "User name" base
definition, it may be worth having one refer to the other to
avoid duplication) but it's not clear whether the expansion of
~user@domain for instance, that is where the tilde prefix is not
a "portable user name" is defined or not (if getpwnam() knows
it for instance).
There is a lot of variation in that regard between
implementations, and the end result is that one can't expect
anything if the tilde prefix is anything but
^~[a-zA-Z._][a-zA-Z._-]*$ (as a BRE in the POSIX locale)
so it would be worth stating more clearly, and also add some
examples of typical cases where users could expect tilde
expansion to work but where it doesn't in practice in several
implementations like ~$user, ~"user", ~$(logname), ~"/bin"
Adding a way to retrieve the home directory of an arbitrary user
would also be useful. FreeBSD has "id -P" (also getent passwd on
several systems) though it doesn't work for users whose username
or gecos or home contains colons or newlines.
Change the content of the Tilde Expansion section to:
A "tilde-prefix" consists of an unquoted <tilde> character at
the beginning of a word, followed by all of the characters
preceding the first unquoted <slash> in the word, or all the
characters in the word if there is no unquoted <slash>. In an
assignment (see XBD Variable Assignment), multiple
tilde-prefixes can be used: at the beginning of the word (that
is, following the <equals-sign> of the assignment), following
any unquoted <colon>, or both. A tilde-prefix in an assignment
is terminated by the first unquoted <colon> or <slash> or the
end of the assignment word.
If the "tilde-prefix" consists of only the tilde character, it
is replaced by the value of the variable HOME. If HOME is unset,
the results are unspecified.
If the tilde-prefix, without the tilde character does not match
the syntax of a portable user name (ref to $LOGNAME), the
results are undefined.
In particular, the results for ~"string", ~$var, ~foo@bar,
~"/bin", ~-1 are undefined as ", $, / and @ are not
characters of the portable filename character set and -1 is
not a portable username.
Otherwise, that tilde-prefix removed of the tilde character
shall be treated as a login name and the "tilde-prefix" shall be
replaced by a pathname of the initial working directory
associated with that login name obtained using the getpwnam()
function as defined in the System Interfaces volume of
POSIX.1-2008. If the system does not recognize the login name,
the results are undefined.
I have sympathy for the issue, but not the details proposed
In particular nothing here needs to be undefined, unspecified
I am not sure if it needs explicit mention or not (perhaps
in the rationale) [this is implicit in the desjred action]
but people attempting to understand ~ expansion as specified
(and generally implemented in sh, though not in csh) need to
be aware that it happens before any other expansions, including
parameter expansions and quote removal and the implications of
that -- I suspect that while you average reader will understand
that "~user" does no ~ expansion, as the ~ is quoted, and quotes
have not yet been removed, but I doubt that many will follow
through on that reasoning to understand that in ~"user" the user
name that would be looked up is "user" including the quotes.
That is if the user name happened to have (matched) quotes in it:
the user o'sullivan (if one existed, despite the portable
user name rules) cannot ever be found as in ~o'sullivan/... the
/ is quoted, and it will not be found by ~"o'sullivan"/ or
~o\'sullivan/ as in those the quoting chars are still in the
name being looked up. If we actually found and returned the home
directory for some user with the similar name, including the quote
chars, then we would be treated with contempt...
The standard could say to do quote removal on the tilde-prefix
before looking it up, but it doesn't, and doing so now would be
a new invention.
As the issue points out doesn't say what should happen if there
are quote chars. I might fix this issue, rather than with the
proposed new text, but by changing the sense of the relevant
That is, alter
If none of the characters in the tilde-prefix
are quoted, the characters in the tilde-prefix
If any of the characters in the tilde-prefix are
quoted, the result is unspecified, otherwise the
characters in the tilde-prefix ....
Just being unspecified what happens when the tilde-prefix contains
chars that are not valid for LOGNAME is enough to satisfy the
technical requirements, but being more explicit that this also
includes any quoting chars might be better.
edited on: 2019-02-14 16:40
I'd suggest the Tilde Expansion section should be updated to contain:
A ``tilde-prefix'' consists of an unquoted <tilde> character at the beginning of a word, followed by all of the characters preceding the first unquoted <slash> in the word, or all the characters in the word if there is no <slash>. In an assignment (see [xref to XBD 4.23]), multiple tilde-prefixes can be used: one at the beginning of the word (that is, following the <equals-sign> of the assignment), or one following any unquoted <colon>, or both. A tilde-prefix in an assignment is terminated by the first unquoted <colon> or <slash>, or the end of the assignment word.
The standard is unclear on this issue, and no conformance distinction can
be made between alternative implementations based on this. This is being
referred to the sponsor.
Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation):
Make the changes in Note: 0004240
|Interpretation Proposed: 15 Feb 2019|
|2017-11-24 17:32||stephane||New Issue|
|2017-11-24 17:32||stephane||Name||=> Stephane Chazelas|
|2017-11-24 17:32||stephane||Section||=> Tilde Expansion|
|2017-11-24 17:32||stephane||Page Number||=> 2354|
|2017-11-24 17:32||stephane||Line Number||=> 75026-75034|
|2019-01-25 01:26||kre||Note Added: 0004226|
|2019-02-07 10:59||geoffclare||Note Added: 0004240|
|2019-02-14 16:32||geoffclare||Note Edited: 0004240|
|2019-02-14 16:40||geoffclare||Note Edited: 0004240|
|2019-02-14 16:43||eblake||Relationship added||related to 0000351|
|2019-02-14 16:47||geoffclare||Note Added: 0004250|
|2019-02-14 16:48||geoffclare||Interp Status||=> Pending|
|2019-02-14 16:48||geoffclare||Final Accepted Text||=> Note: 0004250|
|2019-02-14 16:48||geoffclare||Status||New => Interpretation Required|
|2019-02-14 16:48||geoffclare||Resolution||Open => Accepted As Marked|
|2019-02-14 16:48||geoffclare||Tag Attached: tc3-2008|
|2019-02-15 17:50||agadmin||Interp Status||Pending => Proposed|
|2019-02-15 17:50||agadmin||Note Added: 0004256|
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