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ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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0001705 | Issue 8 drafts | Shell and Utilities | public | 2023-05-07 13:21 | 2023-06-26 15:19 |
Reporter | rillig | Assigned To | |||
Priority | normal | Severity | Editorial | Type | Enhancement Request |
Status | Closed | Resolution | Rejected | ||
Product Version | Draft 3 | ||||
Name | Roland Illig | ||||
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Section | several | ||||
Page Number | several | ||||
Line Number | several | ||||
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Summary | 0001705: Use 'to [the] standard output' consistently | ||||
Description | There are 278 instances of 'to standard output' in the draft. There are 62 instances of 'to the standard output' in the draft. | ||||
Desired Action | Use consistent wording throughout the whole standard. | ||||
Tags | No tags attached. |
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These different phrasings go right back to POSIX.2-1992 which had plenty of uses of both "to standard output" and "to the standard output". It has never been considered to be a problem, and I see no reason to start treating it as one. The counts stated in the description give a misleading picture because they include the word "to". There are also uses of both phrases without "to", so changing only those that have "to" would still leave some inconsistency. There are also uses of both "standard error" and "the standard error"; likewise for standard input. Another complication is that "the standard output" can be part of a longer phrase such as "the standard output stream" or "the standard output file descriptor"; those should really count as uses of "standard output" not "the standard output". Trying to achieve consistency here would be a huge amount of work for almost no gain. Either this bug should be rejected or we should acknowledge that the two phrasings are equivalent by adding definitions in XBD 3 along the lines of: Standard Output, the Standard Output. |
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There is no ambiguity in the current wording. Making this change would be a huge amount of work for almost no gain (and standard output is just the tip of the iceberg). |
Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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2023-05-07 13:21 | rillig | New Issue | |
2023-05-07 13:21 | rillig | Name | => Roland Illig |
2023-05-07 13:21 | rillig | Section | => several |
2023-05-07 13:21 | rillig | Page Number | => several |
2023-05-07 13:21 | rillig | Line Number | => several |
2023-06-15 10:57 | geoffclare | Note Added: 0006333 | |
2023-06-26 15:19 | Don Cragun | Note Added: 0006351 | |
2023-06-26 15:19 | Don Cragun | Status | New => Closed |
2023-06-26 15:19 | Don Cragun | Resolution | Open => Rejected |