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ID Category Severity Type Date Submitted Last Update
0001705 [Issue 8 drafts] Shell and Utilities Editorial Enhancement Request 2023-05-07 13:21 2023-06-26 15:19
Reporter rillig View Status public  
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Priority normal Resolution Rejected  
Status Closed   Product Version Draft 3
Name Roland Illig
User Reference
Section several
Page Number several
Line Number several
Final Accepted Text
Summary 0001705: Use 'to [the] standard output' consistently
Description There are 278 instances of 'to standard output' in the draft.
There are 62 instances of 'to the standard output' in the draft.
Desired Action Use consistent wording throughout the whole standard.
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geoffclare (manager)
2023-06-15 10:57

These different phrasings go right back to POSIX.2-1992 which had plenty of uses of both "to standard output" and "to the standard output". It has never been considered to be a problem, and I see no reason to start treating it as one.

The counts stated in the description give a misleading picture because they include the word "to". There are also uses of both phrases without "to", so changing only those that have "to" would still leave some inconsistency. There are also uses of both "standard error" and "the standard error"; likewise for standard input.

Another complication is that "the standard output" can be part of a longer phrase such as "the standard output stream" or "the standard output file descriptor"; those should really count as uses of "standard output" not "the standard output".

Trying to achieve consistency here would be a huge amount of work for almost no gain. Either this bug should be rejected or we should acknowledge that the two phrasings are equivalent by adding definitions in XBD 3 along the lines of:

Standard Output, the
Standard Output.
Don Cragun (manager)
2023-06-26 15:19

There is no ambiguity in the current wording. Making this change would be a huge amount of work for almost no gain (and standard output is just the tip of the iceberg).

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2023-05-07 13:21 rillig New Issue
2023-05-07 13:21 rillig Name => Roland Illig
2023-05-07 13:21 rillig Section => several
2023-05-07 13:21 rillig Page Number => several
2023-05-07 13:21 rillig Line Number => several
2023-06-15 10:57 geoffclare Note Added: 0006333
2023-06-26 15:19 Don Cragun Note Added: 0006351
2023-06-26 15:19 Don Cragun Status New => Closed
2023-06-26 15:19 Don Cragun Resolution Open => Rejected

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