View Issue Details
| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0000723 | 1003.1(2013)/Issue7+TC1 | Shell and Utilities | public | 2013-07-16 15:19 | 2019-06-10 08:55 |
| Reporter | geoffclare | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | Objection | Type | Error |
| Status | Closed | Resolution | Accepted As Marked | ||
| Name | Geoff Clare | ||||
| Organization | The Open Group | ||||
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| Section | time | ||||
| Page Number | 3260 | ||||
| Line Number | 109371 | ||||
| Interp Status | Approved | ||||
| Final Accepted Text | see 0000723:0001686 | ||||
| Summary | 0000723: time is not allowed to write error messages to stderr | ||||
| Description | The STDERR section on the time page says it is used to write the timing statistics. It says nothing about diagnostic messages. Strictly speaking, this means time is only allowed to write the statistics to standard error and is not allowed to write diagnostic messages there, but that is obviously not what was intended. The change in the desired action should be made in TC2. For Issue 8, 0000267 contains a complete replacement for the STDERR section, which will undo this change. Either a new bug should be created containing a change to be made in Issue 8 after bug 267, or bug 267 should be updated to include the equivalent change. | ||||
| Desired Action | Change: The standard error shall be used to write the timing statistics. If -p is specified, the following format shall be used in the POSIX locale: to: If the utility utility is invoked, the standard error shall be used to write the timing statistics; otherwise the standard error shall be used to write diagnostic messages and may also be used to write the timing statistics. If -p is specified, the following format shall be used for the timing statistics in the POSIX locale: | ||||
| Tags | tc2-2008 | ||||
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Change: The standard error shall be used to write the timing statistics. If -p is specified, the following format shall be used in the POSIX locale: to: If the utility utility is invoked, the standard error shall be used to write the timing statistics and may be used to write a diagnostic message if the utility terminates abnormally; otherwise the standard error shall be used to write diagnostic messages and may also be used to write the timing statistics. If -p is specified, the following format shall be used for the timing statistics in the POSIX locale: |
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Interpretation response ------------------------ The standard states that time may only output timing statistics, not diagnostics, and conforming implementations must conform to this. However, concerns have been raised about this which are being referred to the sponsor. Rationale: ------------- Existing practice includes the possibility of diagnostics, and also the possibility of no timing when only diagnostics appear. Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation): ------------------------------------------------------- Make the changes in 0000723:0001685 |
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Interpretation Proposed 6 Sep 2013 |
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Interpretation approved 14 October 2013 |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2013-07-16 15:19 | geoffclare | New Issue | |
| 2013-07-16 15:19 | geoffclare | Name | => Geoff Clare |
| 2013-07-16 15:19 | geoffclare | Organization | => The Open Group |
| 2013-07-16 15:19 | geoffclare | Section | => time |
| 2013-07-16 15:19 | geoffclare | Page Number | => 3260 |
| 2013-07-16 15:19 | geoffclare | Line Number | => 109371 |
| 2013-07-16 15:19 | geoffclare | Interp Status | => --- |
| 2013-07-16 15:20 | geoffclare | Relationship added | related to 0000267 |
| 2013-07-18 16:22 | geoffclare | Note Added: 0001685 | |
| 2013-07-18 16:24 | geoffclare | Note Edited: 0001685 | |
| 2013-07-18 16:27 | eblake | Note Added: 0001686 | |
| 2013-07-18 16:28 | eblake | Interp Status | --- => Pending |
| 2013-07-18 16:28 | eblake | Final Accepted Text | => see 0000723:0001686 |
| 2013-07-18 16:28 | eblake | Status | New => Interpretation Required |
| 2013-07-18 16:28 | eblake | Resolution | Open => Accepted As Marked |
| 2013-07-18 16:32 | geoffclare | Tag Attached: tc2-2008 | |
| 2013-09-06 04:52 | ajosey | Interp Status | Pending => Proposed |
| 2013-09-06 04:52 | ajosey | Note Added: 0001802 | |
| 2013-10-14 13:08 | ajosey | Interp Status | Proposed => Approved |
| 2013-10-14 13:08 | ajosey | Note Added: 0001898 | |
| 2019-06-10 08:55 | agadmin | Status | Interpretation Required => Closed |
